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Microsoft Kinect


$150.00 Released November, 2010

Product Shot 1 The Pros:Great for kids. Voice recognition. Innovative new control paradigm expands the possibilities of gaming, entertainment, communication.

The Cons:Sometimes the abstraction of a controller is useful and can't be duplicated with motion sensor. Voice recognition might not be available in all languages initially. Requires you to be 6 to 8 feet in front of your TV - an awkward requirement for the majority of TV-room layouts.

Microsoft Kinect is an 'interactive method' accessory for the Xbox 360. The device sits close to your television, similar to the Wii sensor bar, and includes both a regular and infrared cameras. This lets the device perform functions such as image recognition through the regular camera, and motion tracking through the IR sensors.

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Product Shot 2 Microsoft is touting Natal as a breakthrough in control schemes one-upping Nintendo's Wii-mote as your body is the controller. The Natal also contains a microphone that allows the software to be enhanced with voice recognition technology.

Demo'd during the 2009 E3 conference very little actual footage was shown of the device in real world situations, other than a brief manufactured promotional video and a small sample of prototype applications. From the conference Microsoft is making it clear that the Natal is targeted towards the casual expanded audience that Nintendo has captured with the Wii. Speculations on release date and price point are rampant, but nothing has been confirmed or even indicated.

Features

  • image capture through camera
  • 3D depth perception using IR sensor
  • voice recognition through built-in microphone
  • facial capture
  • track multiple people simultaneously
  • compatible with all Xbox 360s

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Pros
  • 14

    Great for kids

  • 10

    Voice recognition

  • 7

    Innovative new control paradigm expands the possibilities of gaming, entertainment, communication

  • 7

    is the next step to virtual gaming

  • 6

    No need for a controller; YOU are the controller

  • 6

    tracking works in all lighting conditions (actually improves the darker the room is)

  • 5

    15 supported games at launch

  • 5

    motorized stand for automatic calibration

  • 5

    capable of working with all versions of the 360 - separate power and USB data connections for older ones, dedicated port for newer versions

  • 5

    Fantastic fun at parties

  • 4

    a healthier alternative to original gaming styles / controls - improves upon the Wiimote by involving the whole body

  • 4

    Brings family friendly gaming to the Xbox 360 - which sorely needed it

  • 4

    Best way to play dance and fitness games

  • 4

    Kinect ID lets you sign into your profile ridiculously easily, and it's really cool to boot

  • 3

    Well priced when bundled with the console

  • 3

    To join the game, just walk in front of the screen. It just works

  • 2

    Comes with a pack-in game

  • -1

    Many possibilties for accessories: clothing, guns, wheels, boards, swords, etc.

  • -1

    No more lost remotes, battle for the remote when viewing TV, movie content

  • -4

    Does not need "calibration"...it just works!

Cons
  • 4

    Sometimes the abstraction of a controller is useful and can't be duplicated with motion sensor

  • 3

    Voice recognition might not be available in all languages initially

  • 3

    requires you to be 6 to 8 feet in front of your TV - an awkward requirement for the majority of TV-room layouts

  • 2

    like the Wii many of the launch titles are shallow and gimmicky

  • 1

    The focus on lowering the barrier of entry to the casual user, may take away from the hardcore gamer's experience

  • 1

    Quite expensive as a standalone add-one

  • 1

    No one can walk in front of you while playing; something people do ALL the TIME!

  • 1

    Using Kinect to control the Xbox 360 isn't universal, only happens in a specific "Kinect Hub" which is a small subset of functions

  • 1

    Very low-res photos of in-game action

  • 0

    might not have alot of games when its released to the public.

  • 0

    most interaction is one person at a time - extremely restrictive, takes some of the fun out of collaborative play

  • 0

    comes with a draconian privacy policy

  • -2

    Vaporware

  • -2

    Games from demo's seem childish

  • -2

    glossy black plastic - looks cheap and is highly susceptible to dust and fingerprints

  • -4

    looks a lot like playstations old eye toy, which was bad

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Omar
Omar: Nice! The update to the Netflix app on the #microsoft_xbox_360 just got released that allows for #microsoft_kinect motion navigation! Unfortunately early reports say that the navigation is pretty limited to a "smart recommendation/instant queue hub" Meaning you can't navigate around the entire Netflix interface and search and all of that using Kinect. You can also control movie playback with Kinect which includes voice control. Apr 14, 11
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Omar: In Microsoft's CES keynote last night they had some pretty sweet announcements, though the ones that were most relevant to me are:
* 8 million Kinect devices shipped
* Netflix and Hulu Plus coming AND Kinect enabled

Being able to use #microsoft_kinect to navigate the extensive Netflex and Hulu Plus libraries is going to be sweet! What would be even more sweet is if Hulu Plus starts including all the content found in Hulu. It's crazy that it doesn't.

Oh, and just to put the 8 million shipped in 2 months into perspective.. it's more than the iPad shipped in almost 6 months. Kinect is a HUGE success, which is great for people like me that own one, since it means there's going to be quite a bit more software released for it. Jan 6, 11
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  • Erik

    Erik: I wouldn't call "Death to Smoochy" horrible. Jan 7, 11

  • shadowtech

    shadowtech: Not to mention it lacks essential functionality like the Instant Queue. Jan 7, 11

Omar
Omar: Not sure how many people are familiar with the whole Kinect Hacks thing, but it's starting to get seriously cool. Essentially people are connecting #microsoft_kinect to their computers and coming up with cool programs/applications.

Here's a piano


http://kinecthacks.net is the best site I've seen for seeing new "hacks" as they appear. Dec 14, 10
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  • Erik

    Erik: Impressive from a technology/potential perspective, however, musically leaves much to be desired. They need to polish this up quite a bit to be truly impressive. Dec 14, 10

Omar
Omar: November 2010 NPD results are in (http://bit.ly/hxmV8F). Looks like #microsoft_xbox_360 is the big winner. Most likely boosted by #microsoft_kinect and #call_of_duty_black_ops it sold 1.37 million units which is the biggest November its ever had. Considering we're in the 5th year of the 360's life, that's pretty darn impressive.

#nintendo_wii did really well too, coming in at 1.27 million units. This bucks the trend that the Wii has been suffering from up until now where it was seeing massive year over year declines. If the Wii sees another big bump in december like in 2009, then it'll actually do really well for the year.

#sony_playstation_3_slim selling 530,000 is pretty sad. Particularly when #gran_turismo_5 comes out in the same month. Not sure what Sony can do at this point... focusing on Europe is probably the best strategy since the US is pretty much hopeless at this point.

And holy crap wow at Call of Duty!! In one month it has become the 7th best selling game of all time. That's crazy. I wonder if next year's installment will sell even more - it seems crazy that it can. But at the same time it seemed crazy that Black Ops would sell more than Modern Warfare 2, so who knows! Dec 10, 10
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Omar
Omar: Wow! In Canada for TD Canada Trust credit card holders they're holding a sale on December 3rd for the #microsoft_xbox_360 #microsoft_kinect 4GB bundle. It's usually $300, and they're selling it for $150, which is the same price as Kinect on its own! It's like getting a 360 for free.

here are the details
http://forums.redflagdeals.com/td-rewards-mall-xbox-360-4gb-kinect-bundle-149-99-dec-03-super-hot-deal-957816/ Dec 1, 10
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  • Erik

    Erik: Giving it a shot now... Dec 3, 10

  • Erik

    Erik: Can't get in. They won't send me the required confirmation email. Odds are very low < 2% chance. 80 offers, 4000+ people want it. Fohget abowt it! Dec 3, 10

Amanie
Amanie: #microsoft_kinect I played this with my 60 year-old dad yesterday and he loved it! We only played Kinect Adventures so the game was pretty lame but it was awesome to see him jumping and stepping with the game. I didn't think it was possible but I think I've become a kinect fanboy(girl). Dec 1, 10
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Omar
Omar: http://majornelson.com/archive/2010/11/29/kinect-sells-2-5-million-in-first-25-days.aspx

Wow! 2.5 million #microsoft_kinect devices sold in under a month. That is pretty damn big! I can see MS easily hitting their 5 million target by the end of this year.

To put things into perspective, their initial forecast was 3 million for the year. They hit that in 1 month, and December is a much bigger month than November. Nov 29, 10
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  • Erik

    Erik: What were the launch numbers for the Wii back in the day? Either way, this is impressive. Nov 29, 10

  • Omar

    Omar: According to VGChartz data (which some don't trust) the Wii's initial launch was from November 19th to December 30th is just under 3 million units. http://bit.ly/fb0PZL

    The #nintendo_wii saw a ridiculous increase in sales though in its second year of life. So we'll see if Kinect will be able to resonate with the mainstream like that and grow through word of mouth + smart marketing. Nov 29, 10

Amanie
Amanie: #dance_central This is by far the best game for the #microsoft_kinect
It's so much fun to play (and laugh) at everybody's dancing skillz. Nov 25, 10
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    Erik: Agreed. It is amazingly fun. It's good enough to buy a Kinect for this game alone. Nov 25, 10

Amanie
Amanie: #microsoft_kinect I just played this for the first time last night and had a blast! It is super fun (and I'm not a gamer AT ALL). I totally recommend it for people who just want a fun activity to do. Nov 25, 10
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  • Amanie

    Amanie: So were you, like, actually sweating during your workout? In other words, did it feel like an actual workout, as if you had gone to a gym and taken a class or something? Nov 25, 10

  • Omar

    Omar: I was actually sweating. And this was just in the fit test session, not even the set routine. Looking at the selection of routines it looks like there are some seriously intense options available. I've done P90X and Insanity at home, so I know how intense programs can be by just doing squats, push-ups, etc. Nov 25, 10

Omar
Omar: Deal alert! until November 25th, Futureshop has the #microsoft_xbox_360 holiday bundle on sale for $250 and it even comes with 2 extra games! This is actually a really really good deal. This special is not only $50 cheaper than the standard 250GB bundle, but also comes with 4 games!

Though most stores are now carrying the "holiday bundle" which includes 2 games - but this is still a great deal over the regular holiday bundle. If you were in the market for the 250GB #microsoft_kinect bundle it makes a lot more to buy this bundle and then pickup the standalone Kinect unit for $150. Reason being is that the overall price is the same $400 - except with this setup you get 4 extra games, and you get the external power supply with Kinect which costs $30 on its own.

The Kinect power supply is good for taking the Kinect sensor to friends and family's houses that don't have the Xbox 360 slim. Nov 23, 10
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  • Omar

    Omar: bump :) Nov 23, 10

  • Anonymous

    Anonymous: Good point about the power supply. I was thinking about upgrading my xbox and getting a kinect bundle, but instead I think I'll go for the standalone. Nov 23, 10

Yale
Yale: #microsoft_kinect http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QrnwoO1-8A holy crap, fast forward to ~37 seconds to see what your Kinect sees - you in 3D! Nov 15, 10
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Font: #microsoft_kinect Kinect looks to be an enticing controller for casual audiences and a potentially powerful supplement to hardcore gamers. Imagine a normal Xbox shooter with normal controls, except the Kinect allows for headtracking (looking, leaning, crouching, gosh i suppose prone might work too) and some gestures to give commands or otherwise. The player could play the game normally, or include Kinect to any extent to increase presision and immersion. I'm excited for the Kinect's future! Nov 14, 10
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Erik
Erik: Does anyone have #microsoft_kinect yet? If so, how is it? Nov 9, 10
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  • Amanie

    Amanie: Hm...I seem to recall someone saying they were buying it as a birthday present? I could be mistaken, of course... Nov 10, 10

  • Omar

    Omar: Well you gave me the impression someone else was buying it for you so I was going to buy you games. You need to be clearer! Nov 10, 10

Omar
Omar: I'm calling it now. The #microsoft_xbox_360 is going to be the best selling console in North America for the next two years. Reading all of the impressions of #microsoft_kinect is showing the same thing that happened with the Wii. Enthusiast press didn't "get" it but when regular people got it into their homes they had a blast. That's exactly what's happening with kinect.

So you then combine that post-Wii hype with all the solid fundamentals the 360 already has and you have an incredibly powerful combination. Other than Nintendo games I don't see any reason to buy a Wii anymore. And unless you need blu-Ray or Sony games then I don't see a reason to get a PS3.

Considering the 360 was already the number one console for the past four months Kinect is going to make sure they have an incredible holiday.

What's particularly exciting to me about all of this is that:
1) kinect games are going to get a lot better. Developers didn't have solid technology until the past couple of months so their games were made in a stupidly hard situation and under strict time constraints. With more mature tech and time to make games properly the 2nd and 3rd wave kinect games have the potential to be great

2) combine this with the fact that xbox 369 has a ridiculously hardcore audience that loves to buy games. What this means is that unlike the Wii publishers actually have a chance to sell their game so they may be more willing to develop "core" kinect games

3) Microsofts strong online capabilities. Wii is absolutely horrible in this regard and kinect is already completely outclassing the competition when it comes to online. Kinect.me is genius and stuff like that is only going to get better.

So remember that infamous article of mine where I said the Wii won't sell? Well people can now take this new prediction to the bank. Kinect is going to do gangbusters. Nov 5, 10
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  • Erik

    Erik: While I don't know the specific sales numbers to agree with you or not on that basis, I do agree with your overall sentiment. I think Xbox 360 now has the most broad appeal. If you were to draw a Venn diagram of these products strengths, you'd have the Wii on the left, PS3 on the right (almost not overlapping), and the Xbox 360 strongly in the center with a lot of overlap.

    Xbox 360/Kinect is perfect for someone like me. I like to more hardcore video games, and I also have a family with a young boy. Why do I need to buy 2 or more consoles when the 360 meets all my demands perfectly?

    So what are the current sales numbers? What about launch-day Kinect sales? Nov 6, 10

  • Omar

    Omar: Nobdoy has hard numbers right now. My guess is that MS will wait until Monday and give weekend figures. If not we'll have to wait until early December when NPD releases November's sales data. Two big questions on my mind are just how big will it get and how will the other two consoles be affected? My guess is that Wii will be hit harder. Nov 6, 10

Erik
Erik: So #microsoft_kinect launched yesterday. Engadget has a great in-depth review: http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/04/kinect-for-xbox-360-review/

Their summary: Great hardware, but it's up to the software developers to make it great.

So are you going to buy it? I am. Nov 5, 10
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Erik
Erik: #microsoft_kinect launch day! Man, am I pumped to try it out. Nov 4, 10
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Omar
Omar: There's a new #microsoft_xbox_360 dashboard update coming tomorrow (Nov 1st) and it's going to a bunch of nice little new tweaks and such, alongside #microsoft_kinect support. I've been part of the beta for a few weeks now and overall I have to say it's a really nice update. Outside of Kinect the biggest upgrades in my opinion are:

- Netflix integration. sure the selection is pretty poor, but it's still pretty damn sweet for only $8/month
- Sign out other controllers. it's a small thing but it happens to me SO often that it's quite annoying
- MSN videos. This is actually pretty cool, you can watch clips from CBC, MTV, and some other "meme" type videos right from the dashboard. It's obviously not YouTube, but hopefully it's a start of cooler/better things to come. Oct 31, 10
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Amanie
Amanie: Does #microsoft_kinect really work? I can't imagine it actually working well without being really unresponsive. Oct 29, 10
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  • Omar

    Omar: Here's an (hour long) video that shows Kinect and the most "popular" launch games: http://kinect.gamespot.com/video/index.html?id=6283069
    Personally I've actually used the system at E3 2010. Overall it's not AS responsive as the #nintendo_wii, but honestly it's a moot point. There's this very strange but cool feeling of being able to control the action that's happening on the screen without actually having anything in your hand. When you see the cursor on the screen move as you move your hand around, you get this feeling of 'this is the future'.

    In terms of gaming experiences I think Kinect is going to suffer from the same kinds of issues as the Wii where it's a lot of shallow mini-games. However, the #microsoft_xbox_360 has such a strong lineup already that the "core" games are already taken care of. Plus, you can use the hands-free Kinect interface to control the main dashboard which is even cooler when you add in the Netflix functionality.

    I honestly think the combination of Kinect + the Xbox 360 makes the 360 the most complete console. Whether you want casual fun motion games, hardcore titles, or consume digital media the 360 really does have something for everyone. Oct 29, 10

  • Amanie

    Amanie: So it kind of feels like Minority Report? Oct 29, 10

Omar
Omar: #microsoft_kinect Overall I thought it was amazing technology, really ground breaking stuff. The low latency and high resolution internal models means it's very powerful. At the office we were talking about using it for sports games, and being able to 'dribble' in soccer, or pass the ball with Ronaldo.

But there's also the danger that we're going TOO far into the realm of 'realistic' control. In the abstract->simulation spectrum, you have controllers which are very abstract, Wiimote which is semi-abstract, Natal which is closer to similar, and then real life.

I think the Wii-mote has struck a good balance between abstraction and realism that doesn't require you to do TOO MUCH to get a good result. When you have the kind of capability of Natal when you can get very close to real, then it's going to be up to the software developers to strike that balance.

With the Wiimote developers are forced to compromise and design around the limitations, but with Natal they're not. And some developers may not have the discipline/design intelligence to properly restrain themselves.

Look at Tony Hawk Ride for example... Jun 1, 09
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